Wednesday, December 30, 2009

MY FINAL THOUGHTS ON THE MEMBERS4CHANGE

This will be my last post on this issue, because I believe we have bigger problems out there to deal with then messing with a bunch of "haters" that just want to cause chaos among the troops.  And most don't care what this is all about or don't  understand fully.

I posted last week my own thoughts on the Don Novey putting his one sided e-mails to the Sac. Bee.  I knew I would ruffle the hornets nest doing so, because like I have stated before, there are people out there that think this man is a saint.  That was my opinion only, not as a chapter president.

Since that posting they (unit6members4change) or whatever they are calling themselves now have been attacking me like wolves with a downed elk.  They post many allegations on their site, but I have not see any proof of it to back it.  I ask them show me the proof, ie; lap dance pics or receipts, documentation to back every allegation.  They don't.  They did in fact, take a partial copy of this posting on this blog and an e-mail letter and tweaked it to sound good for their forum.  I am quite actually impressed that they took time to even think about me in their blog, I went from a silly no name guard to someone in an unknown blog.  

The point I'm trying to make here is, we are in a major battle with GAS now.  Things are not looking good at all.  There is no money. We have people loosing their homes, cars, ect.  And it is not just the Department, it's everybody out there. We are not the only victims in this.    And we have folks out there that can't or won't see that and just want to bash everyone in their way.  We need to focus on getting back on our feet as Californian's and move forward.  This is not going to happen over night.  You don't have to like the partner standing next to you in that code 3 line, but by damn you will protect them if needed to be.

Sitting there bitching about everything does nothing.  Actually taking action is something.  As I have said many times, WE (that means all of you) are CCPOA.  If you sit back and complain but can't lift a finger and write something down or make a phone call to stop the problem, then you are just part of the problem instead of a solution. Everyone needs to get involved in this.  Our lively hoods depends on it.  Our Governor from the beginning made it very clear that he was coming after us.  So we cannot blame one guy for no contract.  

As for those guys that call themselves members for change.  They are worthless in my book.  They are part of the problem.  If they don't agree with what your thoughts are, they will hang you.  They don't care if you have a mind of your own, you can only think what they want you to think.  And they claim MJ as Stalin?  Wow, talk about throwing stones at a glass house.......

Yes, I am pissed off.  There is one person out there that has an awesome perception of things, we all don't have to agree with it, but he makes you think.  The haters club attacked him and he removed his post so it would not cause anymore conflict.  That's what pisses me off.  When a person cannot express themselves.  These haters are so concerned about how CCPOA is running, maybe they should go downtown themselves and get to work to help out the problem.  But I guess that would take all the fun out of it then.  They wouldn't have anybody to HATE on.  And throw stones at.

I am tired of people harassing others for "fun" because they can, tired of the "haters" that can't get a clue that they are the ones in fact destroying our union, and the ones that can't get off their butts to do the right thing, instead they sit there in their chairs and bitch all day long on how things are fucked up and nobody is doing anything about it.

As I say, this is only my thought process.  I hope you take it for what it is worth.  We have some good people out there, that spend most of their own time working their asses off to make things right, because it's the right thing to do.

So the only thing I have to say is, do the right thing and fight for the right reasons.  And for the members for change................go drink your kool-aid and get a life.

This is my final thoughts and post on these people.  We have more important issues to deal with.  For you that don't know what this is about, just ignore it.  I am sorry that I have to do this in a public forum.  But that is how these folks do business.

Lori


14 comments:

Anonymous said...

DAMN LORI, ARE YOU PISSED OFF OR WHAT? I DO HAPPEN TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SINCE I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE NOVEY/JIMENEZ DRAMA. I HAVE BEEN AROUND THE NOVEY YEARS. YOUR FIRST POST WAS WELL WRITTEN AND PRETTY ACCURATE. YOU HAVE TO ADJUST THAT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A FORCE OUT THERE AGAINST YOU. I GIVE YOU MY SALUTE ,FOR BEING THAT PERSON TO SPEAK THEIR MIND REGARDLESS OF THE BACKLASH YOU RECEIVE. YOU STAND UP TO THE WRONG IN CDCR AND ARE NOT AFRAID OF TELLING US ABOUT IT. MANY MEN WOULDN'T DARE DO THAT. SO DON'T BE SO HARD ON YOURSELF AND TAKE PRIDE IN YOUR WORK. YOU ARE LOVED BY MANY AT CCC FOR THE WORK AND THE FIGHTS YOU DO. DON'T EVER FORGET THAT. KEEP UP YOUR FIGHT AND DON'T FORGET WHO YOU ARE.

P.S. IF YOU CAN POST MORE ISSUES AT OUR INSTITUTION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THAT IS JUST MY IMPUT ON YOUR SITE, OTHERWISE YOU ARE DOING GOOD. WHEN ARE YOU COMING BACK TO WORK? WE NEED YOU BACK.

Anonymous said...

YOUR NOT ON UPL ARE YOU? HA HA HA NOW DON'T TELL ME YOU WON'T POST THIS EITHER. LORI, YOU POST ALL THE GOOD STUFF ABOUT YOURSELF. AS A CHAPTER PREZ, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE AVAILABLE TO STAFF; HOWEVER ITS GREAT THAT YOU CAN RUN THIS GREAT WEBSITE AND STILL BE AVAILABLE OFF DUTY. YOUR FACILITY NEEDS YOU!! OH I FORGOT THATS WHAT YOUR VP IS FOR, TO TAKE YOUR PLACE WHILE YOUR OUT. YOU HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FROM YOUR FACILITY, WITH THE WARDEN AND ALL. GREAT NEGOIATION SKILLS, WOW YOU GOT MY VOTE FOR STATE WIDE PREZ, YOU SHOULD RUN, WE NEED A STRONG VOICE AS YOURS!!!

LORI said...

For the record. No, I am not on UPL. I am not even getting a full paycheck the last few months. Why? Because I had a freakin heart attack last year and burnt all my time up and have not gotten it all back yet. So just to set that part straight. I am not getting a full paycheck and I still go out to the prison 3 or 4 times per week to handle business because it is the right thing to do.
Lori

Anonymous said...

MS. LORI WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CATISTROPHIC TIME? DON'T THEY ALLOW STAFF TO GIVE YOU TIME ANYMORE? YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE SHORT PAYCHECKS, THIS IS SAD! SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR HEART ATTACK. HAS ANYONE CONTACTED CPOF TO GIVE YOU ASSISTANCE? SOMEONE AT YOUR FACILITY SHOULD TALK TO YOUR WARDEN ABOUT GIVING YOU TIME. THIS IS WHAT COMARADE IS ALL ABOUT.

LORI said...

A CTB was turned in, but sat on someone's desk for 2 months. Normally I am the person that runs around for the CTB (can get it signed of in 1 day).

I don't mean to come off the way I do, because I care about all our staff and have no problem not getting paid to help them out (thats what I signed up for). What gets me is how I am thrown in a general pool of $ suckers and I am not. I have never gotten UPL from the union since I have been in office.

Anonymous said...

MONEY SUCKERS? IT TAKES AT THE MOST 15 MINUTES, YOU KNOW THE PROCESS; HOWEVER SOMEONE ELSE COULD HAVE DONE IT FOR YOU, SINCE YOU DO IT FOR OTHERS. I HAVE DONE IT MYSELF. IT TAKES A WARDEN'S APPROVAL AND THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY WRITES IT UP AND COPIES ARE MADE AND ITS DONE! HEY YOU NEED HELP NOW, TO HELP THEM OUT?

YOU HAD THE HEART ATTACK! SO MUCH FOR GRATITUDE. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU LORI, YOU GIVEN TIME TO OTHERS? HAS ANYONE NOTIFIED CCPOF OF YOUR NEEDS? UNBELIEVABLE! THE TIME CAN GO OUT STATEWIDE EVEN, NOT JUST WITHIN YOUR FACILITY.

LORI said...

Anonymous, I am not aware of anyone calling CPOF. I guess I have too much pride to do it for myself. As I say, I have pride and won't walk around begging for CTB for myself. It just doesn't seem right. I just posted a post on how staff need to get back together and treat eachother as family, like we were in the old days. It seems now, it all about "me" attitude.

My Money Suckers comment was me venting....I don't ask HQ's for anything but advise when I need help with a problem.

Stay Safe and Sane Anonymous. You sound like a down to earth comrade. Happy New Years.
Lori

Anonymous said...

MS. LORI, THANK YOU, BUT GUESS WHAT I'LL CALL THEM!! THATS JUST IT, YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO DO IT YOURSELF, THATS JUST IT, EVERYONE FORGOT WHERE THEY CAME FROM! TIMES ARE HARD AND THE FURLOUGHS DON'T HELP EITHER! BUT THERES NO EXCUSE FOR GIVING A FELLOW OFFICER A HAND! AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW SOMBODY TO DO IT! ITS CALL HUMANE TREATMENT! WE TREAT OUR PETS BETTER THAN WE DO EACH OTHER! COME ON STAFF GET YOUR PREZ SOME HELP! EC? THIS IS NOT ABOUT ONE PERSON OR SIX, THIS IS ABOUT 33,000 OFFICERS!! HEY LORI THIS ALL ABOUT ME ATTITUDE CAN BRING PEOPLE JUST THAT, ALONE! LORI, THEY CAN EVEN START A COLLECTION FOR YOU AT YOUR FACILITY. THERE IS NO EXCUSE, GET WITH IT PEOPLE. HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU TOO! GET WELL! :)

Anonymous said...

EXPECT A PHONE CALL MS. LORI, THE HEAD OF THE ANGELS IS GOING TO FLY YOUR WAY. YOU TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF!


ANON

Anonymous said...

AH MS. LORI, CHAR THE HEAD OF THE ANGELS DID CALL YOU TODAY; THATS
WHY WE CALL IT, " TAKING CARE OF OUR OWN." I WOULDN'T KNOW YOU IF I SAW YOU, ONLY KNOW OF YOU, BUT GUESS WHAT LIKE THEY SAY, BY THE WAY LORI, OR BETTER I SAY, " ANGELS ARE THERE EVEN IF YOU DON'T SEE THEM, BUT KNOW THEY'RE THERE AND I'M RETIRED :). BUT I'M NOT DEAD YET? I STILL CARE ABOUT THOSE WORKING THE TOUGHEST BEAT IN THE STATE, WHO ARE STILL WORKING TOWARDS IT, A STRESSFUL JOB THAT CAN LEAD TO HEALTH PROBLEMS, SUCH AS YOURS. THIS MADE MY NEW YEAR TOO, MAYBE EVERYONE ELSE WILL GET IT! EVERYONE OUT THERE READING THIS, THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS AT ONE TIME AND IT STILL CAN BE. DON'T SELL YOURSELF SHORT, YOU DESERVE THE BEST AND DON'T SETTLE FOR LESS. TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.

GOD BLESS YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!! AND ESPECIALLY CPOF AND CHAR!!

Anonymous said...

Friends in need, real friends and fairweather friends
‘A friend in need, is a friend indeed’ is a popular saying, implying that people become friends when they need something from you. Whilst this can indeed be true, the reverse is also significant. When you are in need, then you find out who are your real friends.

An acquaintance found out recently that she has a chronic medical condition. Nothing visible and nothing to stop her living a normal life, but something that will occasionally flare up and cause discomfort. She also found out something of the difference between real and fairweather friends.

She informed them simply because she is an open and honest person. There was no seeking of particular help. Perhaps a little sympathy, but no special treatment or additional attention.

When she told some friends, they responded with concern. They listened without asking anything in return. They asked how they could help. These were real friends.

Others, who she also believed to be friends of the same sort, responded first with selfish concerns. They asked if it was infectious in any way or that might somehow catch it. Then they melted away, despite reassurance of their safety.

Fairweather friends are those who are most likely to appear when they are in need or, at best, when you are not in need. Real friends don’t care about your need. They will help where they can and know that it’s ok if they can only offer a little sympathy.

LORI said...

Yes I did get a call from Char, we had a good talk. She is a great woman. Thank you for what U did, maybe someday we will cross paths and I can say thank you in person. We need more "old school" folks out there like you, we are loosing them all right now.

God Bless.
Lori

Anonymous said...

BY THE WAY MS. LORI, WE WILL BE CROSSING PAST SOONER THAN EXPECTED. :) GOD BLESS YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR, IT APPEARS THAT YOU HAVE STARTED OFF THE NEW YEAR WITH SOME BLESSINGS, YOU WERE WAY OVER DUE. I GUESS THOSE OF US WHO WORKED THE TOUGHEST BEAT IN THE STATE/RETIRED, BUT STILL WORKING FOR THOSE WHO ARE STILL WALKING THAT LINE, TOGETHER SIDE BY SIDE. WHEN YOU GO TO WORK LOOK AT THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU, REMEMBER WHO THEY'RE AND WHO YOU ARE TO THEM! BECAUSE WHEN CRAP HITS THE FAN, THATS WHOSE GOING TO BE THERE, OR SHOULD BE? RETIRED OR NOT, RETIREES JUST GOT MORE TIME TO ASSIST THOSE WORKING TOWARDS IT OR THEY STILL SHOULD. I HAVE GOT SOME RETIREES WHO TELL ME, WELL I'M RETIRED, LIKE THEY FORGOT ALL THOSE YEARS WORKING TOWARDS JUST THAT AND MADE IT ALL IN ONE PIECE. THATS THE FIRST OBSTACLE TO OVERCOME, LEAVING WITH YOUR HEALTH AND SANITY AND ALL THAT YOU ARE BLESSED WITH IF YOU DO. I WAS LUCKY AND FORTUNATE TO STILL HAVE MY HEALTH, LORI, BUT I WILL BE DAMNED IF SOMEONE ELSE DIDN'T SURVIVE IT, NOT GET THEM THE HELP THEY NEED. CHAR REFERRED TO ME AS YOUR GUARDIAN ANGEL LORI, ITS NICE TO KNOW YOU GOT ONE, EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS. ITS AFFILIATED WITH OUR CDCR FAMILY AND TAKING CARE OF OUR OWN. I RETIRED FROM CDCR, BUT KNOW I'M STILL THERE FOR ANYBODY I KNOW NEEDS IT!! HOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU STILL ACTIVE/RETIRED. WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, LIKE A MARRIAGE KIND OF TILL DEATH DO US PART. AT LEAST THATS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. IF I MEET THE PEARLY GATES OF HEAVEN, I PROBABLY WILL STILL COME BACK AND PULL SOME EARS AND TAP YOU ALL ON THE SHOULDER AND SAY, DON'T FORGET WHO YOU WALK SIDE BY SIDE WITH ON THE LINE AND WHO ONCE DID. SORRY LORI, BUT NOVEY WAS ONE OF THOSE PERSONS, WHETHER THOSE JUST GETTING INTO THIS DEPARTMENT OR RETIRING NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT.

YOU ARE ABOLUTELY CORRECT AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN WHERE WE CAME FROM TO JUMP ON BOARD AGAIN AND DO THE RIGHT THING!

I DON'T KNOW HOW CHAR DOES IT, BUT THE GOOD LORD HAS NOT TAKEN HER FROM US, BECAUSE HER WORK IS NOT DONE HERE, LIKE NOVEY AND ALL THOSE WHO STILL CARE ABOUT THIS PROFESSION, OUR ORGANIZTION, CCPOA & CCPOF.

STAY SAFE AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

Anonymous said...

HI LORI, WERE YOU ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE ONTARIO MEETING AS YOU STATED YOU WERE? HOW DID IT GO? ANY GOOD NEWS FOR US?